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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:44 pm 
This might be a really controversial question, and a question that doesn't have an easy answer.

But for Christmas this year, I'm thinking of asking for a program to edit my photo's. I have only Digital Photo Professional that came with my canon camera. I have a PC. And I basically have no experience. I'm trying to better in portraiture, and love landscapes, wildlife, and I'd love to learn how to stack photo's and try some HDR.

I've thought of getting Photoshop mainly for its popularity with training. Classes at school. But Not sure now focused it would be. I don't have any biased opinions, just trying to start with something.

If I'm way off base here at least try to help me with where to start.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:49 pm 
Photoshop Elements. Very userfriendly, though packed with features! On their (Adobe's) website, they say that it is 90% of the full Photoshop. Not too expensive either, and tons of tons of places to learn it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:51 pm 
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I don't tend to post process much and I've found Photoshop Elements adequate for my current needs. It's a lot cheaper than the full version, but also less features.

With the Adobe software, do note you can download time limited trials from their web site. So that is a way to get an initial feel before you decide.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:20 pm 
Count this as another vote for Photoshop Elements. It's a really really nifty tool with lots of features that will carry you a long way.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:49 am 
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Adobe Lightroom.

Simple.

Photo management, workflow and editing all in one.


I would also say knowing a bit of photoshop wouldn't hurt, but really I don't use photoshop that much anymore for photos as lightroom really does everything I need 99% of the time.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:14 pm 
Same for me. I almost only use Lightroom. Maybe because i don't really know how to use PS quite yet.
But if you wanna do real post-processing, i think your better off buying PS. :)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:22 pm 
I'd have bought Lightroom, but it's about £200 compared to PSE's £70. I just couldn't justify the price difference. Perhaps later when I earn more disposable $$$.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:23 am 
thanks a lot for all your replies. I'm kinda amazed to hear that PS elements is mostly recommended. And slightly happy. It seems to be the easiest to find help video's, and it seems to be pretty cheap. There is a rebate on it on amazon for $59.99. I might buy it from costco they have a coupon starting next week on it. Should bring it to about the same price.

Adobe Photoshop Elements 7 is that seem like about the newest version?

I have thought about Lightroom also, I originally thought about getting another brand more focused strictly on photography but they are pricey and I still hear a lot of complaints.

I think I might try to learn the ropes with PS.

One question, is there a significantly better version that I should consider? Or will this still do a lot of what I want to do.
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Photoshop Elements 7 is the current version. It was only released about a month or so ago.

Photoshop CS4 is the current "big" version, with a suitably "big" feature set and price tag. You'll have to look deeper to find what they chopped off it to make Elements.

Again, you can download trial versions from Adobe to have a go before buying.

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Elements if you want to be prepared for Photoshop. Lightroom if you don't care.

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Adobe sell stuff? :lol:

Well, if you really really want to buy, from adobe, you can perhaps take advantage of their student discount, educational discounts etc. even if you are to old you can get a relative to buy it with their discount =)


But really, Lightroom is what i'd use.

That or Photoshop CS4 and Adobe Bridge.

But Lightroom + CS3 is my current combination - got CS4, just not installed it yet since im about to test out Windows 7 =)

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:16 pm 
Adobe Photoshop is THE go to software for image editing let it be websites, logo's, posters or photographs. its a very deep application and does a lot of different things but there is a lot to learn and i find it complicated to use.

99% of my images are edited in adobe lightroom which is a photography workflow/editor built into one. Apple also have an alternative called aperture.

These programs are better "professional" versions of software such as Picasa (which is free so you can download it and give it a go) and iPhoto.

I suggest downloading picasa and seeing how it works and if you like it. adobe lightroom works in a similer sort of way just with more features.


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