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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 7:25 pm 
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I have a Canon EOS Rebel T5i with only the lens that came with it (EFS 18-55mm). I'm fairly new to photography and want to purchase a quality zoom for shooting photos of our companies custom metal work as well as architecture. I almost bought the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8 ll USM until I realized I do not have a full frame camera. If I'm going to drop 2k on a lens it has to give me the most for my money. Then I read a review on the new Sigma 18-35 F/1.8 DC HSM lens for less than half the price of the 24-70. I can't decide if the Sigma would be a better choice over the 24-70. I don't plan on getting a full frame camera. Any input would be greatly appreciated!!!


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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 7:53 pm 
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mjphoto14 wrote:
I almost bought the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8 ll USM until I realized I do not have a full frame camera.


Forgive me if I'm teaching you to suck eggs but you do know that the lens is still compatible with your camera? With that said, 24mm isn't desperately wide so its suitability for architecture photography is questionable.

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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 1:13 am 
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mjphoto14 wrote:
I have a Canon EOS Rebel T5i with only the lens that came with it (EFS 18-55mm). I'm fairly new to photography and want to purchase a quality zoom for shooting photos of our companies custom metal work as well as architecture.

In what way(s) are you finding your current lens lacking? I ask because, while I'm not familiar with your specific metal work, it doesn't seem to me like the kit lens you have should struggle with pics of metal work and architecture in general. (Or, looking at it the other way, I don't see you gaining a huge boost in image quality, especially relative to the price, with either of the alternatives you're considering.)

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P.S. As an aside, since lenses generally tend to perform better in the center (or, looking at it the other way, performance tends to fall off toward the edges), a full frame lens on a crop sensor camera will use more of the better center part of the lens (or avoid using the edges, again, looking at it the other way).


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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 4:05 pm 
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Even though the 18-55mm lens is a kit lens, it does not mean you cannot do quality work with it. As you learn what you enjoy or get frustrated with in photography, that should lead you to buying to new gear. Just spending money on gear will not necessarily increase the quality of the pictures you take.

There are people who are able to get better pictures out of a $100 50mm f/1.8 than I can with a $1500 lens.

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 8:44 am 
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Thanks for all your input. I think what I really need first is a wide angle lens. I'm debating whether to purchase the Canon EF-S 10-22mm ultra wide f3.5-4.5 USM or the new Sigma 18-35 F/1.8 DC HSM. Input please. Thank you


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 12:22 pm 
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You're comparing lenses for arguably different purposes so it's not so easy to determine which would be the "best" choice.

If you find your 18-55mm lens too narrow at the wide angle for adequate framing for architecture, no human effort will make the Sigma 18-35mm more usable in that regard so the Canon 10-22mm would be more suitable with its wider coverage.

As BleuDragon and Maestro said, if you haven't observed a specific limitation with your 18-55mm lens, can you really expect the Sigma 18-35mm to give better results out of the box, especially when you're looking for a wide-angle lens and Sigma's lens is no wider than the kit lens?

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 1:04 am 
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It seems my last post didn't register...anyway thank you Rorschach and your point is valid regarding the 18-55 being too narrow at the wide angle so the 18-35 will not be any wider. I think that what enamored me about the 18-35 was the f/1.8 constant aperture as we often take photos of our interior custom work and I'd like the 1.8 for low light especially. Now that I've been able to get some input from other photographers it has assisted me in coming closer to a decision. I'll most likely purchase the 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 and work with that along with my 18-55 kit lens for now. Once I've gotten some practice in the field I'll know more of what I need/want in a lens. Thanks to you all for your input.


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 1:25 am 
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Just FYI Canon is supposed to come out with a new ultra-wide lens soon-ish. (Rumor is 10-18mm f4.0-5.6). Or there's Tokina's 11-16mm f2.8

Full disclosure: I own a Tokina 11-16mm - Mark


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:47 am 
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I have got the canon 15-85 is usm lens, it a very good upgrade over the kit lens and it does go wider. The 3 mm might not sound like much, but its a big change at the wide end.
You may not need more than the 15mm, might be worth a look at.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:10 pm 
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I've been told that the Canon EFS 10-22 mm3.5-4.5 USM lens has some L glass in it even though it is not an L lens. Any one know if this is true and also does the new Canon 10-18 (which sells for half the cost of the 10-22) has any L glass. Thanks!


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:26 am 
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You get what you pay for generally speaking.

From what I've read, the new 10-18mm lens is an excellent companion to the 18-55mm kit lens. This is not in the same league as a lens that costs several times more, but it is a great bang for your buck lens.
Two of the most impressive bang for your buck lenses is the Canon 50mm f/1.8 and the 40mm f/2.8 lenses.

What exactly are you looking for? If you do not know what you want and are just starting out and wanting to learn, I would recommend the newly released Canon 10-18mm lens.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:49 pm 
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mjphoto14 wrote:
I've been told that the Canon EFS 10-22 mm3.5-4.5 USM lens has some L glass in it even though it is not an L lens. Any one know if this is true and also does the new Canon 10-18 (which sells for half the cost of the 10-22) has any L glass. Thanks!


I wouldn't say it "has some L glass even though it is not an L lens". However it does have elements, which are more common in L lenses, that reduce colour fringing.

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