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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:57 pm 
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Nikon has had the advantage in ultra-wide lens choices, in the past, particularly ultra-wide zooms. This has been one reason that I have trended toward Nikon FX and 35mm cameras, while, mostly acquiring longer Canon lenses, to use on APS-C and APS-H cropped-frame cameras.

Canon has thrown the gauntlet, however, with the apparently excellent 16-35mm f/4L IS, following its highly-regarded 24-70L choices. Now, it is not so easy to regard Nikon as having the better ultra-wide zoom choices. The 16-35mm range is particularly suited to my 1.3x-crop 1D Mark II N bodies, providing a very useful 20mm-44mm-equivalent angle of view, as well as being good for the 36x24mm "full" frame.

I have been using an EF-S 10-22mm lens on a 7D for my ultra-wide zoom needs, and it will probably be sacrificed, in trade to a local camera store, if I opt to purchase the 16-35mm/4L II. This is not so easy, however, as this 10-22mm has served so very well, shooting evidentiary/forensic images at work, and being an agreeable companion during personal shooting. I like weather-resistance, however, and the superior construction and weather-resistance of the new 16-35L IS was revealed in Roger Cicala's article, posted at the Lensrental.com site. He disassembled the new lens, and posted photos; the 16-35/4L IS is better-built than the 16-35/2.8 L II.

For the first time since beginning photography a few years ago, I may be an early adopter of a just-released product. It will take a leap of faith to trade my 10-22mm, without first experiencing the 16-35L II, but by making the trade part of the purchase transaction, I will save considerably on Texas sales tax, which is equivalent to VAT/GST.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:48 pm 
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Well, I reviewed the distortion figures for the EF-S 10-22mm and the EF 16-35mm 4L IS, and while the latter remains a desirable goal, the lower distortion of the EF-S 10-22mm might prompt me to keep it, as I am not allow to post-process the images I shoot at work. I will have to either decide upon another lens to trade, or pay more $USD.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:30 pm 
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Can you get your work to help out $ wise?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:08 pm 
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PalaDolphin wrote:
Can you get your work to help out $ wise?


This would be nice, but very unlikely. The CSU/ID officers are using 50D and 7D cameras, and lesser lenses than I now use.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:55 am 
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I learned that my CSU colleagues are now issued EF 24-105mm f/4L lenses, replacing the previous kit lenses. (They are issued 50D and 7D cameras.) I am attending 40 hours of forensic photography training this week, and learned there is now more of an emphasis on shooting a series of crime scene images with a lens in the "normal" focal length range, meaning about 50mm on a 35mm-format camera, and about 28mm on 1.6x cropped-frame cameras. It is considered important that most scene images present things as a normal person would have seen them.

Well, late this afternoon, I was at a local camera store, and saw a gently-treated, pre-owned EF 24-105mm f/L, priced quite attractively, so I tried it on a pre-owned 1Ds II camera inside the store, and decided to buy it. I noted its pleasing minimum focusing distance, and quickness to acquire focus. At home, on a 1D Mark II N camera, this lens did not disappoint. True to its reputation for focusing fast and accurately, it managed to acquire acquire focus in quite low light, as the sun faded from the scene. This lens had not been on my wish list, but I had done some research in the past, and noted that quite a few working professionals and nature photographers use it.

This will, of course, significantly postpone consideration of the acquisition of a 16-35/4L IS. A mid-range zoom became more important, and the 24-105L is weather-sealed, covers fairly wide to telephoto, has very little distortion from 28-40mm, where I need it to be my "normal" lens on 1.6x and 1.3X cameras, and matches the lens issued to my CSU colleagues. My 10-22mm EF-S will remain my ultra-wide zoom indefinitely, which is actually a good thing; it is an excellent lens. :)

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:32 am 
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It's a good lens (24-105). On my last 2 vacations, it was the only lens I used (full frame). The only thing I'd caution is shooting wide angle JPEGs without distortion correction on a full frame.


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