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Remember these are list prices. Street prices will fall below that. How much and how fast is harder to predict, and may well depend on supply and demand.

Also people are forgetting exchange rate effects here. The Japanese companies work in yen, which is still very strong relative to western currencies. Right now £1 gets you 129.4 yen. The 5D2 was launched before the full onset of the economic crisis in late 2008, where it was pushing up to 200 yen to a pound. Ignoring inflation, if the 5D3 was offered today at the same yen value as the 5D2 was, that would be over £3300 (taking 190 yen as average).

Or looking at it the other direction, if we had exchange rates today like we had then, £3000 would go down to about £2050 if we got 190 yen to a pound now.

Of course, this is over-simplified and there are many more variables to contend with. But fundamentally, exchange rates have got a lot less favourable for buying in the West in recent years.

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Does any one know yet if the 5D3 will send radio signals to Canon's new radio wave flash (http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/prod ... e_600ex_rt)? I'm assuming the 5D3 and 1D-X were designed with this flash in mind.


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From what I have read the radio transmitter is not built into the body but they have introduced a radio version of the ST-E2

http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/speedlite_flash/speedlite_transmitter_ST-E3-RT/

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I think you're right about the radio flash and the 5D3 mirageii. Perhaps in the 5D4 there will be a radio/IR transmitter built-in. I'll probably just buy a Speedlite 580 when I buy my 5D3.


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digital rev have got a hands on video, not really worth watching or getting excited about. around 5:30 it sort of shows the improvements in the high iso performance.

http://www.digitalrev.com/article/canon ... 3ODU3MjU_A

What I find surprising is that it has more AF points but they only fill the centre part of the frame. I shift the focus points around on the 7D to frame a bird ie rule of thirds. I stick the focus point on its eye and use top right or top left focus point. Having more doesn`t help, if its not taking those focus points out further to the edge of the frame.

The area covered by the focus points looks about the same size as the 7D. So what is the point of 41 focus points over the 19 on the 7D when it covers the same area? See around 4:40.

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Well more AF means more accuracy at distance, and more accuracy with difficult subjects. But thats besides the point.

I was using a D300s for work a few years back and they were going on and on about 51AF points but like you said, was all in the middle of the frame, so whats the point?

I guess there MIGHT be a reason from both companies.

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I am sure I will learn more, as each time I read the specs, I see something not noticed earlier. One thing for sure, is that I am very glad I skipped buying a new 5D2, and instead bought L lenses and a pre-owned 5D. My local crime scene photography instructor had told me in late 2010 that he planned to wait and see what the 5D2's successor offered; now it is apparent those were words of wisdom. It seems low-light performance will be better, and dual memory card slots are a definite plus.

The price is quite high, making me wonder whether I should aim for the 1D X, instead. Reviews from actual long-term users will definitely play a part in my decision. There is plenty of time, as buying any new DSLR will have to wait until the budget can accommodate such a purchase; probably a year, if not two.

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Wasnt it this time around the release of the 5D MK 2 that ppl were poo pooing canon for the 21MP? Mostly it was my Nikon friends (no hate towards Nikon fans, but the comments were always the same, which was) who said: 21MP? Thats too much for a FF camera, what about the Noise and the Pixel Density? Canon is just trying to be the first to break the 20MP mark. And the worst comment I remember Chase JArvis once said in an interview "No one really needs more MP"

And what I dont understand is why people are saying Nikon has 30+ and Canon is being stupid.

I will always keep saying it, why do we need more MP? Its a good move on Canon and werent we making billboards from 4MP back in the day?

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I personally think they missed the boat by not including a vari-angle tilt/swivel screen on this camera.


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Second with Canon mentioning reduced moire, I wonder if they strengthened the low pass filter, good for video, bad for hi res stills.


I read somewhere that reduced video moire is due to a new downscaling algorithm that no longer line-skips, which I found very interesting because, to the best of my knowledge, Canon has never actually stated that their previous version line-skipped. (Everyone, myself included, assumed it did, because it looked like it did, but I've never seen an official statement from Canon.)

Also, being a video guy, I'm happy to see file-chaining (finally) implemented, but disappointed that it appears to be limited to 29 minutes in all regions.

Also love the SMPTE support and the all I-frame option. And the higher res HDMI output should make focusing much easier (on an external monitor).

But at $3,500 I'm going to wait for the GH3 - Mark


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Hello everyone, well it's been along wait,but very well worth it!! YES it's a little pricey. ,just simple if it's not the camera for you their another model or brand out there. I think canon did a fantastic job with the 5dIII,they changed and fix everything all the canon shooters wanted and more off of your reviews of 5dII.

what I love most is the MP war is over with canon, MP don't make IQ only print size. the funny thing is canon smarter then you think by adding 1 more MP(LOL) most people believe more MP better camera.i would have bought it with 18mp.

I'm looking forward Gordon review,and looking forward to owning 1

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It has been pointed out that there appears that this new 5D MIII has some artifacts/black halos in the stars of the Aurora image ISO800. Black dot MIII issues here we come again...

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos5dmk3/


Maestro, I hope you right about the new sampling to reduce moire as opposed to a stronger low-pass filter, though time will tell.


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On the AF point coverage, this seems to be nothing new. Full frame cameras have always heavily concentrated them around the middle of the frame.

The MP debate has been done to death. Those who have eyes firmly closed wont accept more no matter how many times it is explained why they can be better, the most recent description being provided with the 24MP cameraphone. Nikon fanboys only just woke up when the 36MP alarm call went off. Then again, it is only one factor of many, and on this occasion Canon's priorities lie elsewhere.

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Hi capital,

The halos are definitely there in the shot but they don't look quite like the infamous "black spot" issue the 5D2 originally had which was rather less symmetrical. I did my own unscientific test of the effectiveness of the 5D2 firmware fix for the issue and wrote it up in this post. Whether the Auriga shot is suffering from the same issue or is the result of some cack-handed post-processing remains to be seen. One would hope that it's the latter: it would be unforgivable for Canon to have fallen into the same trap on both the 5D2 and the 5D3.

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Those who have eyes firmly closed wont accept more no matter how many times it is explained why they can be better, the most recent description being provided with the 24MP cameraphone. Nikon fanboys only just woke up when the 36MP alarm call went off. Then again, it is only one factor of many, and on this occasion Canon's priorities lie elsewhere.


Kinda glad Im not the only one that thinks this way - I mean, I love the fact that my 7D has 18MP and I hope to upgrade to FF so I can benefit from the density of the size and MP ratio. I even squealed happiness when Olympus pushed past the 10MP barrier for their 4/3 Sensors and I think we can only get better.

Canon's priorities are deffinately elsewhere - Assuming that canon sensor tech isnt as great as Nikon's, the fact the camera is pushing through 22MP at FF through a single processor with post processing happening at 6fps with all the little rating and corrections going on, shows that processing, speed and accuracy is where I think canon wants to go. This shows in the speed and accuracy of the 7D and the 1DX. MP be damned - Havent we always been telling beginners to buy better lenses anway? lol

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This will definitely be my next camera. The reason why is that they chose the lower pixel count (smaller image files, yay), improved the ISO, upgraded the auto focus, and improved the weather sealing. I wouldn't personally need the extra megapixels for crops as I don't have the need for the extra reach that cropping can give.

I thought I had saved enough for this camera but a recent change of apartments has set me back more than I would have liked, So I will need to save up some more. That is not too bad, as I hope for the price to drop while I save up the rest, making room for a new lens as well, if I'm lucky.

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