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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:41 am 
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Ok, I was just at my local camera shop, and I was talking to the guy that sold me my 7D and he mentioned that I Was lucky I didnt get the Nikon D300s cause it was getting replaced in Feb 2012 because it didnt reach the new Japanese "safety regulations" for camera (whatever that means)

But Im not sure thats "lucky" since things would/could be cheaper and that means Nikon would have a camera that Canon would have to reply with in a release of their own.

So my question is, is there any new replacements for Canon next year or are we going to see more "filler" models to slot between the 60 and 7 and 7 and 5?

Just seems odd that camera bodies only have shelf lives of 3-4 years. Or is it just me worrying too much?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:38 am 
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A shelf-life of 3 to 4 years would be great. As you can see here, it gets less often the more "pro" the model line in question, but even the xxD range gets updated about once every one and a half to two years. The D300s is especially aging, falling way behind in megapixels and video mode.


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well, I just suffer byuers regret a little easier than most and since the 7d came out 2 years ago Im looking at my brand spanking new 7d thinking is great but I kinda felt like I bought it too late, or maybe thats me.

Its still a fawking nice camera and It with me for years until I go full frame and by then Id have about a few L lenses.

In the end, I just hope I got my moneys worth because I didnt get a fantastic bargain, although getting a bag, filter and 3 year warranty with the 15-85 for 2600 australian I think was a good deal, but I still get that, feeling of, should I have waited?

But then again, thats how the industry works :P When I bought my Olympus E510 5 years ago, it was quickly replaced a year later by the E520... poo

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:08 am 
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The only definite camera next year is the 1D X which has already been announced. Anything else is pure speculation.

Odds are there would be a 650D as thy have been popping out around one a year in recent times. There's a strong chance for a 5D3 of some sort. No more "filler" between the 60D and 7D although either or both will get replaced at some point, it wont necessarily be next tear. Above the 7D, I feel there is now a gap for a new body but there's no evidence of such a thing happening.

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Leo, one of my local instructors, as of a bit less than a year ago, was still using a 40D as his primary DSLR, and he waited until the 50D was released before buying his 40D, to take advantage of the predictable price drop. Pros do not necessarily use the latest/greatest model, unless it has a feature deemed necessary. He may well still be using his 40D, because, if I recall correctly, he planned to wait patiently to see the features of the successor to the 5D Mark II. (On the really serious side, he does still shoot medium-format film.) This instructor is a true artist in "painting" with light. The latest camera is not a necessity.

I own a 40D, and cannot disagree with him. The 40D is still relevant. Your 7D will remain relevant for quite some time.

On the Nikon side, the D3/D300/D90 generation was indeed a big step forward, according to most Nikonians of my acquaintance.

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If I may add, I bought the 50D few months ago keeping in mind Ill use it for a really long time, the 50D is a good quality DSLR, featuring good build quality, fast FPS and a big viewfinder. The picture quality is good to say at least, why would that change in years? Only newer models will have better quality pictures, but what is better? I still use a 350D from 2004 which is able to take stunning pictures! As the 50D was a real investment for me, Im not going to replace it in the near future, but also: the quality is good enough, with a newer body your pictures wont really get better, maybe if you pixel peep... Youd better invest in a new lens instead of in a new body. If youre happy with the pictures your 7D takes now, why should that change in the coming 10 years?

Yes, you all understand me well. My dad had used his Minolta XD-7 for over 30 years, and Im going to use my 50D also for quite a long time, though 30 years is maybe a bit too optimistic...

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I got my EOS 500D in the summer of 2009, so it's about 2 1/2 years old now. Heavy use :D I'd really love the 7D but in terms of image quality it's not really so much better. It's more the handling, the viewfinder, the speed, the weather sealing and the video mode. Everything very nice, but the image quality isn't that different...
So I used my money for better lenses = better image quality. The next lens will be the 24-105mm F4L IS USM and then I might look for a new camera (having a great kit of lenses). But in this case I think it will be one of the next generation. 7D2 or 5D3 or something like that. (OK, the best way would be: Both. For different kinds of work). The 5D3 is the most interesting one as I have a crop camera (500D) yet but the 7D2 might be less expensive and I'm using my 100-400mm (+ crop) lens very often and sometimes I'd miss the reach of a crop sensor. So both will be interesting. I think the 5D3 will be released earlier (the 5D2 three years old against "only" two years of the 7D) and I just hope it won't be too expensive.
Whatever it will be: I don't think I'll buy one until the end of 2012 or the beginning of 2013 so I'll use my 500D a bit longer and hope it will survive that time. :lol: If it doesn't I'll be using the 300D as my main camera until I can afford a new one.

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well, I just suffer byuers regret a little easier than most and since the 7d came out 2 years ago Im looking at my brand spanking new 7d thinking is great but I kinda felt like I bought it too late, or maybe thats me.

In the end, I just hope I got my moneys worth because I didnt get a fantastic bargain, although getting a bag, filter and 3 year warranty with the 15-85 for 2600 australian I think was a good deal, but I still get that, feeling of, should I have waited?


I just bought a 50D in April and haven't had an ounce of regret. Since I already have a camcorder for HD video and almost never display images on anything bigger than a computer screen, it does everything I need it to beautifully and that's that, no matter how "outdated" it may be tagged. Right now my bank account has L glass centered in its crosshairs. But that price does seem a little high, although to be fair it does inlcude the bag and filter. I was able to snag a refurbished 15-85mm off the Canon site for $640 US. But the only way I'd worry about replacements coming out is if you just really get a rush from having the latest and greatest thing. It's hard to imagine the 7D having any real inadequacies, save for being full-frame, for probably a good 5 years yet. (Maybe now they'll prove me wrong and put 3D video on the 7D Mark II? :lol: )


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:49 am 
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There have been a number of threads on this:

http://www.cameralabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28469

http://www.cameralabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28605

http://www.cameralabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28607

http://www.cameralabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28608

http://www.cameralabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27971

etc.

Canon seem to be concentrating on the high end stuff for professional photgraphers. It also seems to be mostly about video. Strange in what are essentially not videocameras.

The 5D mkll has been out for some years now, is due for replacement and is largely superseded by the 7D which has better facilities, but is a crop frame camera.

Rumours of a new 5D mklll are anything between going with the 1D X 's 18Mp sensor up to a sensor of more than 30Mp. The biggest problem for the 5D mkll is the 7D. It has better autofocus and generally better facilities, and has done for some years now. If you look at these rumours you can see the problem for us:

http://www.canonrumors.com/category/pho ... -mark-iii/

I know it is not a reliable site but what else have we got to go on?

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