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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:02 am 
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I found a pretty decent price for an Aussie version of the 7D on Ebay - after seeing prices for the 5D and knowing I'll never be able to afford it anytime in the next 10 years, the 7D will do fine.

If I cant afford a L series lens, what would you guys recomend as a cheap alternative for a portrait lens? I was thinking of getting a 50mm 1.8f or the 1.4f

I havent been a canon user, Im leaving the Olympus Camp as I have been dissapointed with the 4:3 system, not that its bad but Im tired of cropping and Im tired of the low light noise - and my E510 is kinda getting on.

Anyone got ideas, recomendations?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:22 am 
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Hi there, just curious what you mean by Aussie version?
Also why a 7D over a 550D or 60D, would leave extra cash for lens

I have the 50 1.8 and much prefer the 85 1.8 as a portrait lens. In fact I don`t find much use for the 50. If you do get the 50 and focus speed is important don`t get the 1.8, but look at the 1.4. with usm.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:39 am 
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The aussie version has the battery charger for the power point. Nothing special, and it seems like the store I plan to get it from is only a few hundred dollars more competitive. But nothing special, I just dislike aussie prices - what upsets me the most is that the aussie dollar is higher than the US atm, and yet I pay 500 LESS (that includes shipping) if I import rather then buy it from the retail stores here.

As for going for the 7D I kinda want something that takes a lot of shots quickly, and having a Olympus E510 which is a small body attached to a big honking Oly lens, just gets odd comments and stares from audiences - especially since I do weddings, old uncle sam has a Nikon D300s or a 60D and looks at my set up and they ALWAYS comment on how much better their camera is despite the fact I have a 4 grand lens attached to my set up. Im kinda sick and tired of it frankly. I lost a lot of work when I show prospective clients my gear when they ask for it and they see a body thats as big as a canon G12 and they automatically think Its not up to scratch to Uncle sams D300s with a cheapy lens attachment and that it has LIVE VIEW, something my camera has but I dont use and they say, "oh why dont you use it?" as if its somehow better >_<

Anyway, yea, kinda over the comments and want to get back to my small side business. Nothing special, I cant afford full frame, but I do want a nice strong body and a starting lens for now so I can use it to take protraits for the time being until I can afford some nice L series.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:56 pm 
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The 50/1.8 isn't a slow focuser, but very noisy, where the USM 1.4 would probably be a lot better. 85/1.8 is a nice lens but obviously is that bit longer.

What focal lengths have you used on the Oly? Then work out the Canon equivalents and take it from there.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:30 pm 
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I really do like my 50mm 1.8. It is the pre-Mark II with the metal mount, but optically, it is the same glass as the current Mark II. The 85mm 1.8 seems to be very highly regarded by those who use it, and I am not simply parroting that from what I have read on the Internet. On the Internet, I just noticed that Zack Arias really likes this one, for use on his 5D2 cameras.

There are non-L Canon 100mm options, if you have need for a portrait lens that long, but I do not personally know anyone with them. The Tokina 100mm 2.8 macro lens is a very nice telephoto, too, with nice bokeh. We own one, and it works very well for both macro and short telephoto.

To be clear, I do not shoot weddings, and consider myself at the serious beginner level. My portrait "clients" are crime victims, for whom I invested in L lenses. I could, however, do everything with my Canon 50mm 1.8 and the Tokina 100mm 2.8 Macro, with perhaps a 35/2 included, if I chose to do so. I really do wonder, sometimes, why I bought my 50L, on my budget, as my 50mm 1.8 is really so remarkably good.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:21 pm 
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The 50L isn't made for all out sharpness, it is made for the f/1.2!

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Very true popo! I think we are on the same page, in that regard. The 50mm 1.8 is a very good light-weight general-use walking-around lens, that can be a good focal length for portraits on a cropped-frame camera body. The 50L specializes in being shot wide-open, so is especially good when available light is not so abundant, but is really for folks who like shooting at f1.2, as an end in itself. (I am one of those folks.) With budget being a consideration, as is the case in this discussion, the 50mm 1.8 is a certainly a very good bargain, because it is such a wonderful lens in its own right.

I do love fifties! Besides the ones shown in my signature line, I have been using a Nikkor 50mm 1.8, borrowed from my wife, on my F6, until I decide which auto-focus Nikkor to purchase for myself.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:30 pm 
Canon used to make an F/1.0 50mm if wide-open is your thing!

http://www.photographyreview.com/cat/lenses/35mm-primes/canon/ef-50mm-f-1-0l-usm/prd_83381_3111crx.aspx

You can get hold of Leica F/0.95 if you've got a spare £10,000, haha.

http://www.digitalrev.com/en/leica-50mm-f0-dot-95-asph-noctilux-m-lens-11178.html

I find myself using the 50mm F/1.8 more often than any other lens, with the exception of my Sigma 10-20.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:16 am 
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I have the 50mm f1.8 and the 85mm f1.8. Once I got the 85mm, I almost never find myself using the 50mm anymore. The 85mm is just nicer. (I still use the 50mm occasionally indoors, as the 85mm is a bit long.)

That said, the 50mm f1.4 is what you should be comparing to the 85mm. The 50mm f1.4 is more comparably priced, and (I think) matches the 85mm in build quality, focusing speed, and USM. So the decision is really about the focal length.

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