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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:45 am 
Im planning to pick up a new Ultra Wide lens.

I would like to have some suggestions from users here.

Lenses that are within about $1000 are preferred.

I have the canon 550d and 500d bodies which i intend to use these lenses on.

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:13 pm 
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Sigma 8-16mm F/4-5-5.6 DC HSM
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Tokina 11-16mm F/2.8. ;)

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 3:20 pm 
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Samyang 8mm.
Very cheap and a good quality lens. Check lenstip.com for a good review.

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:08 pm 
Hi Guys,

I was actually looking at the Sigma 8-16mm. But i didnt mention it cause i didnt want to bias the suggestions at the start.

Ruben > the samyang being fixed Focal length how do you find using it in practical situations when it comes to composition ?

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I love the Samyang 8mm, but being a fisheye it is a bit different in use than a rectilinear wide angle. I find you can still crop if needed to alter the framing.

If you don't want the fisheye distortion, then the 8-16 is about as wide as you're going to get. It generally gets great reviews.

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:55 pm 
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I researched many, then strongly considered the Tokina 11-16mm 2.8, but went with the 10-22mm Canon, with which I am well-satisfied thus far. In spite of the maximum 3.5 aperture, it "sees" quite well in low light, compared to other zooms I have that start at f/3.5, that hunt for focus unless I provide extra light.

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:30 pm 
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Personally I'm planning to buy the Sigma 12-24mm - it's wide on a crop frame sensor yet - but it can be used on a full frame / analog camera, too. That's pretty cool as I'm using an analog camera and I'm planning to get a full frame camera in the future.
Pretty amazing lens.

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:50 pm 
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And the distortion is also very low on the Sigma 12-24, if I remember correctly.

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Yes - that's one of the reasons why I want this lens indeed. I'm not such a fan of the fisheye effect.

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:43 am 
I have the 8-16 and i can tell you that i love that lens!!!

I haven`t find a way to take pictures of people with it, but for anything else 8mm is priceless!


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:28 pm 
Nice to hear your opinions. Any user experiences are welcome. Keep them coming.

Im still leaning towards the 8-16mm. As i have the 18-55mm and i feel this would fill in the lower than 18mm needs but for the 2mm void inbetween.

I have a week or 2 more to decide and take the plunge though.


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:43 pm 
I'm in a similar position. Whilst laying out huge sums of cash does make me a little twitchy - the fact that lenses hold their value well means I accept saving a little longer for a lens I want irrespective of price.

So far I've narrowed it down to Canon's 10-22, Tokina's 11-16 and Sigma's 8-16.

From what I read, the wide angle focal length makes a big difference. The Canon can show you 10% more than the Tokina and the Sigma 20% more than the Canon.


Tokina seem to have the fastest lens and arguably the sharpest - but also have the largest quantity of complaints about CA and flare. It comes with a hood and is re-assuringly weighty.

The Canon is, as per usual, berated for not coming with a lens hood which seems to be mandatory for lenses with such high viewing angles as the front element is more exposed to stray beams. Apart from that, I borrowed some content from a user on pbase.com;

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Resolution (center): Tokie gets the slight edge here.
Resolution (edge): Tokie is the definitive winner here.
Contrast: Slight edge to the Canon, if pressed on it.
Shading: Tokie the much stronger performer.
Distortion (barrel): Canon by a little.
Flare: Canon by a lot.
CA: Very close, but the nod to the Canon. Both "so-so".
Build: Tokie, though the Canon is still a solid lens.
Handling: Nod to the Tokie because the focus/zoom rings are similar in size and the dampening buttery smooth.
Aperture (speed): Tokie, of course.
AF (noise): Canon takes this one.
AF (speed): Canon again, though the Tokie is a very close second.
MFD & Magnification: Canon here too.
10D/D60/D30 compatible: Tokie yes, Canon no.


Talking about the Sigma, it's another one to two hundred quid on top of the other lenses, but it seems to have the least barrel distortion (fisheye effect) of the three, despite its extra 2mm over the Canon.

In my personal opinion, I'm thinking that if I buy the Canon, then I get some sort of peace of mind that I wouldn't with the Sigma. I fear it's a placebo effect though and that one of the others are better! Aaargh!


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I have the Sigma 10-20/3.5 and I'm very pleased with it. It comes with a lens hood but I think it's mostly for drcoration/protection. At these angles it has to be relatively smal in order to keep out of the fame, so not much protection against flares. I think the Canon 10-22 one is better and has a bit more reech (almost the same price here) but I liked the ideea of a 3.5 constant aperture.

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 5:11 pm 
I like the constant aperture on the Tokina, but my head says that the Canon will spend most of its life at 10mm on a tripod, so the variable aperture is a moot point.

For my application, anyway.

@ Radu - Is that the Sigma that everyone seems to be returning/selling on auction sites and Amazon?

I was reading about it and the poor reviews said they wished they had spent a little extra to get Tokina/Canon. What's your experience?


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Adding my voice to the chorus, I've had the Tokina 11-16mm for a little over a day and I think it's a cracking lens. I have noticed a bit of light flare but other than that I don't have any serious complaints.

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