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Well, lets keep this topic to the 600D... but, a new 7D will not very soon be announced, and you keep dreaming of your 60D and dont think about the 70D.

I dont understand this upgrade, this is just a 550D with firmware-upgrade and other screen, however, it's like that. They could have called it a 550D II.

Cant wait for your review Gordon, although that should not be that soon as always!

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Tamron 17-50 2.8, Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L USM,
Canon 18-55 II plus lots of Minolta MD/M42 lenses and bodies

I do. It's an incremental update and not a new camera. If you follow the updates from the 500D -> 550D -> 600D (all a year apart) it makes sense. It's also why I think the 60D will get an upgrade sooner than later, (think 40D -> 50D), as the 600D is a great alternative to the current 60D.

...I like the addition of the articulating screen and wireless flash.

I don't feel as if I will be missing out! This is basically the same as the 550d except with articulated screen and flash control.

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I agree that the 600D / T3i represents a minor update over the 550D / T2i - it's basically just the articulated screen, wireless flash control and a few software / interface extras, but I still think it's a potentially good product.

I personally find articulated screens very useful, so to find one at a cheaper price point from Canon is always a good thing. Rather than seeing it as a 550D / T2i with the extras, you could alternatively see it as a 60D with the same sensor, movies, screen, but a bit cheaper thanks to slower continuous shooting and lack of upper screen.

And as always, please don't worry too much about prices until they've been out for a few months and settled down.

Yes, many of the latest Canons are becoming more subtle variations on existing models, but this is no bad thing as it lets you choose the features you want without paying for those you don't (a strategy that's worked well for Sony). For example, many macro or astro photographers would appreciate the articulated screen, but didn't need the faster shooting of the 60D - so the 600D / T3i gives it to them at a lower price point without sacrificing image or movie quality. It's also Canon's answer to the Nikon D5000.

Many may also be disappointed or surprised to find the same 18 megapixel sensor deployed for the fourth time (7D, 550D / T2i, 60D, 600D / T3i), but it's a good sensor and lest we forget, Nikon also deployed its previous 12 Megapixel sensor many times too.

It is however an indication of current markets that even Canon with its famously huge R&D budget has scaled back on developing new sensors for almost every new DSLR as it did a few years back. These things are expensive to develop, so while times are tough we should expect to see more recycling of existing components.

I look forward to testing the 600D / T3i when it's available anyway.

When I saw this topic I was like, oooh no! Because I've just bought a 550D, but there is not much in this camera that I would actually miss on the 550D.
Ok the screen is always nice but apart from that..

Although I am starting to believe it propably would have been better for me to invest more money in glass rather then the body. Beginners mistake I guess.

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Wow I can't wait until next week when Cannon announces the 650D!! Had they skipped the 550D and released this in its place it would have a much bigger impact. The 550d improved video and resolution over the 500d and this adds a swiveling screen. Had all this been in one upgrade it would have been a much bigger deal. Not saying that this is a bad camera.

This is like a car manufacturer that releases a new car because they put a turbo in an existing one and then re-releasing it next year when they put bigger wheels on it.

Does this upgrade still have a Mic input like the 550D....

Ugh, too many upgrades! It seems as if the T2i was just released.

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What about the other side of this: the new 18-55 lenses. So now Canon has released it's 6th and 7th different efs 18-55 lenses. Meanwhile they have prime lenses in their line up older than college graduates that are also in the budget of a Rebel buyer.

The current 18-55 IS is great for the money. Why they spent research resources on these is beyond me.

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One thing I'm curious about is if there is any low light improvement in the 600D over the 550D. I'm not reading anything about this, but neither am I reading that there is no improvement in image quality.

Even if Canon is sticking with 18mp sensors, that doesn't mean they cannot continue to improve their sensors.

If Canon really wanted to improve their kit lens to be something that the other companies do not offer, then they should include USM. Even if it was micro-motor USM. Just make the front end not rotate when focusing.

Again, looking forward to Gordon's review.

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I would expect the quality to be the same as the 550D / T2i.

It seems as if the 1100D is going after the D3100's market, with it's new video mode and the guide mode/feature guide. However, I still think that I'd opt for a D3100, it offers a slightly larger screen, higher ISOs, a higher MP count (but it shouldn't really make a difference) and from what I've heard, the D3100 has a less 'plasticky' build than the D1100. For now though, I guess I'll wait for the releases and reviews before I compare their use in practice.

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My thoughts exactly! If I can't find a GH2 body or 14-140mm kit in the US in the next month, I will be buying a T3i.

Mark

I read elsewhere the new 18-55 kit lenses are not optically different from the existing versions. They made some modifications to reduce manufacturing cost.

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well basically,the 18-55 II IS had a totally new optical design compared to the old 18-55 version,which was one of the crapiest lenses I ever tested. (build & optics)
the 18-55 IS was pretty sharp really,especially for its low price tag,the newer version will be a winner if Canon solves that rotating front element thing,present at many beginner lenses. (but Canon will never do that)

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