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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:07 am 
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Hi everyone, just a quick note to let you know we've posted our full review of the Canon PowerShot G9 here:

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Canon_PowerShot_G9/

As always, there's also a video tour to go with it:

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Canon ... view.shtml

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:49 am 
targeted at higher-end enthusiasts and even pros looking for a serious compact digital camera,
as a "digital compact", G9 really surprises us


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:41 am 
Great review.
Your reviews are about 10min max huh ?
Maybe in future part 1 for external and part 2 for internal features :?: :idea: :!:

Just too bad about the noise level though.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:48 am 
G9 looks like great camera for beginners who wants to advance in photography and later move on too dSLR. It is small, compact, but still powerful camera.

Cheers!


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Gordon, great video as usual. You didn't miss a single point, amazing how you manage to offer such concise reviews in just shy of 8 minutes. very nicely done. and you are right, G9 right now has no competition...

drazen gal, G9 is also a great camera for advanced photographers who want a small go anywhere, fully featured camera.

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Thanks guys!

So SHIVA, has it made you want to buy one again? I really liked it, but keep feeling there's too much of 'I wish they'd done that'.

It's interesting, the official photographers at the Skyline Gondola in Queenstown (a cable car which takes you to a restaurant and balcony with the view you see on all our coverage and results shots) all use Canon PowerShot G6 cameras with a large external flash on a bracket. One of them was disappointed to see the G9's aperture was still f2.8 compared to f2.0 on the G6. Apparently they'd tried the G7, but found the slower aperture just didn't work well with the flash and the conditions.

I sometimes think manufacturers remove some of these features without realising how many specialist photographers they subsequently alienate. These guys actually have to buy replacement G6's second hand because the new models simply don't have the feature they need.

At least RAW is back on the G9, but I won't be truly happy until it has a flip-out screen and a wide angle lens... (preferrably with a boost in speed and widescreen movies too!)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:27 am 
SHIVA wrote:
drazen gal, G9 is also a great camera for advanced photographers who want a small go anywhere, fully featured camera.


Oh yes! U are right! Especially when comes back to fact that RAW is here again.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:22 am 
Great G9 video Gordon, as usual. However, I was most impressed by the sharpness of the samples. In my opinion they riveled/out performed many lens test samples.


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Hi Brian, the results can certainly be good under the right conditions, but even at 80 ISO there's a sprinkling of fine noise grain which can give the impression of greater sharpness - just like how an inkjet print with its speckles can look sharper than a continuous tone lab print, even though they may both contain the same detail...

Bottom line, it's still a nice camera! But it could be so much nicer...!


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:18 pm 
Thanks Gordon. Little details, like the appearance of sharpness resulting form low level noise, isn't apparent to the untrained eye.
And, I feel for those G6 owners who had to give up their tilt-n-swivel LCDs when they upgraded. :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:28 am 
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Yeah, and their f2.0 lenses and upper status screens! I mean time-lapse and face detection are nice to have, but would you swap them for the G6's features? New models ain't always progress!


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Maybe the G10 will will finally get it right... hahahaha.... hahaha...


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I think A650, can be that camera for people. It doesn't have 2.0, but it's got many high-end features with the same lens and chip as the G9, but with a flip screen and AA bats... S

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:21 pm 
Thank you for the review Gordon!

I really like the graphic interface they use for displaying apeture and shutter speed settings.

I keep an IXUS 65 in a side pocket of my camera bag and love the small size and good IQ for a 6MP camera, but would love to have some manual control now that I understand a little more about photography.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:36 pm 
Thanks for the G9 review, Gordon. Very informative, as usual.
Well, I ended up selling my EOS40D + 24-105 f4L lens, and only kept my G9 - for the moment... the 40D combo was too much, too big for me and my needs at the moment.

Also, what I have done, is to get Noise Ninja. True, the G9 - like most small sensor-cameras -suffer from noise at higher ISOs. But with NN, I can clean noise up. Seems like a good solution to me, because I have a portable "mini-SLR", now with no noise as an end product (the pictures).

I took a noise profile of my G9 (which is the procedure in NN) at all ISOs, which NN then matches automatically with similar-ISO'ed pictures you treat with NN. So, if you load a picture taken at, say, 800 ISO, NN will look at the noise profile of the G9 at 800 ISO as a reference to clean your picture. Works quite well, I think. It's quite late now, but I will take some test shots at 400,800 and 1600 ISO before/after NN treatment and post them. I think this combination - G9 +NN - works quite well.

Now, imagine this: a G10 that has the possibility to load via firmware update a Noise ninja "plug-in" into the camera, or from another manufacturer. Canon would provide the facility to do this on your computer (DIGI III tweak of some sort, and an understanding with relevant manufacturers), then you would go to, say, NN's home page, pay and download the firmware and install it on the G9. you could then have maybe 2-3 noise reduction options within the camera - one from noise ninja, another from another manufacturer, etc. (to treat the photos after you've taken them). I would happily pay an extra $100 for the G9 to have that option. but I know I'm dreaming... I know you can, of course, do this on your computer. But it's pretty cool as an idea, though...

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