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 Post subject: Someone stop me...
PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:23 pm 
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...from ordering the 70-300G. Well, for now anyway. I know they're only rumours but I should wait and see what the 400mm equivalent will be like. Photokina isn't too far away... I only hope rumours on an impending release are right... I've been too close to hitting the order button several times already XD

Damn these 'should I buy now or later?' type questions.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:35 pm 
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POPO, STOP! HALT! You're about to make an early decision that could be huge mistake, because you'd spend a lot of money on a very good lens, and later find out you'd want another one. Then your money is all gone, and selling the lens so you can buy the other is no option, because resale value is less than the price you paid.

Look at this image:
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You'd rather have that beasty right? A Zeiss lens, first of all, or so it is rumoured to be (looks like it is). Larger coverage, from 70 or 80 to 400mm! 400mm, imagine! That's 600mm on your camera. Great for wildlife photography and spying on neighbours! Very high quality, just like the 70-300 F, but... this also feels even better. Bigger, heavier, more professional look. As you know, I've tried the 70-200mm and holding such a lens is a pleasure, and forces you to get more creative too!
It's also got a tripod mount, which will result in better balance. And it might not extend as much as the 70-300 (which is extremely long at 300mm), which is a good thing!

So please popo, don't buy the 70-300mm yet. It's only about a month till Photokina, which is when this lens will probably be announced. Then you might have to wait a short while before it's available, but it'll be worth waiting. What a lens!

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And if you want to get rid of that "I must buy something"-urge, get the flash gun first! That will be enough for the next couple of weeks!

Gotta go now, see you on sunday!
And you'd better not have ordered the 70-300mm by then :evil: !

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LOL, it's working. The picture helps remind me what I'm waiting for... now all I have to do it not spend my money on other things before the lens arrives.

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Do you guys think (dunno, maybe), with the release of this 80-400mm new telezoom, the price of the 70-300mm G will drop :?: And if it should happen, how much would it be priced:?:

I really want a telezoom glass, in fact I'm about to buy the Sigma 70-300mm APO, but I think is better wait until Photokina and see what happen...

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:33 pm 
Im looking at the 70-300G for my next lens, but a 70-1000,0000,000mm lens sounds very interesting! I bets its going to be more expensive though and £500 for a lens is about my limit.


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I think unless the 70-300 is directly being replaced, the price wont change much if at all. A -400 is just different enough to be in addition not instead of.

Price is pure guessing at the moment. We don't even know the final spec to start guessing. But if you really do want to guess, then assuming it will be high end (G or Zeiss) then people have compared it to the closest Canon L equivalent.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:37 pm 
i think the 70-300G is to new a lens to be replaced.


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I'm almost 100% shure that the 80-400mm is a Zeiss lens, it complement the range with the 16-80mm you have Popo... Nice range by the way, 16mm to 400mm in Zeiss superb optical quality. :D

So if the price wouldn't drop, I'll buy the Sigma now and then next year decide between the G-Series or the new Zeiss...

There's just 1 month to Photokina... I'll wait, you should too Popo.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:30 pm 
hey popo, you and i are probably in the same situation.....and the answer is WAIT!!!!!!!!!!
in fact there is not much time left before photokina starts.
the CZ 80-400mm would be a better choice like what bjorn have said it stands out of the crowd :D
and if you or me were to get the 70300G , it's 100% that either one of us will regret terribly !!!!!



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popo wrote:
I think unless the 70-300 is directly being replaced, the price wont change much if at all. A -400 is just different enough to be in addition not instead of.

No replacement. Not only is the 70-300mm G to new for that, it's also an entirely different lens (more compact, no tripod collar, smaller filter diamater, etc.).
Don't think the price will fall, because the 80-400mm is an entirely different lens, also a lot more expensive :D .

And if the picture really is working, PRINT IT! It's hard for me as well not to spend money, so I can buy the 70-200mm. Not other lenses, but e.g. books on photography are very tempting. I printed a picture of the lens and hang that on my closet. There's a picture of the lenses box as a background on my mobile phone, as well as lots and lots of other images as well.

Let me help you some more:

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Can anyone give me some rumoured specs on the white one in that picture, I'm interested. Could it be a 300mm F4? Or is it 200 F2 or something/

Just wait a little longer Popo and Joey, it will be worth it.

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I think I'm in the mind set for waiting now. Actually forced into it. Just exercised some stock options, and they take a while to get me the cash, probably after photokina. But my budget is a bit fatter now.

I'm kinda torn between what I would like the -400 to be. f/5.x+ would be cheap(ish) but after going out on a shoot earlier today I wonder if something brighter would help. Constant f/4 maybe? Somehow I think a f/2.8 would be insanely priced at 400mm...

Actually, on that note, I wonder if I need 400mm at all. I have enough trouble holding steady and tracking a target with 300mm.

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popo wrote:
I'm kinda torn between what I would like the -400 to be. f/5.x+ would be cheap(ish) but after going out on a shoot earlier today I wonder if something brighter would help. Constant f/4 maybe? Somehow I think a f/2.8 would be insanely priced at 400mm...

Actually, on that note, I wonder if I need 400mm at all. I have enough trouble holding steady and tracking a target with 300mm.

Good thing your budget is getting fatter, you'll need it :).
My guess on the -400 specs: Zeiss 80-400mm (to be the perfect supplement for the Zeiss 16-80mm). With SSM (that's more of a hope, other wise it will be slow, for it's price tag at least). The speed will be f/4.5-5.6, just like Nikon's 80-400mm VR (sorry I didn't link to the official Nikon page, it had trouble loading). Filter thread will be 77mm, so pretty big.
Constant f/4 would be WONDERFUL, but probably too much of a challenge (for such zoom range). Constant f/2.8 is only possible on a fixed 400mm lens, in no way possible for 80-400mm (not with today's technology at least).
And the tripod collar ain't there for now reason! Get yourself a nice, sturdy tripod (or monopod) if you wish and use it! 400mm is a great focal length for shots of wild animals or in the zoo, I'm sure you'll use it!

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another image for your cravings :D :D :D


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Joey wrote:
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another image for your cravings :D :D :D

Thanks Joey for that one! Only 36 days and then I'll hopefully buy the lens pictured above! 36 days!! Monday the 29th of September will be the day...

Doesn't it look sexy? :P

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