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Hi everyone, this is our official thread for discussing Sony's new large sensor compact, the Cyber-shot RX100!

For full details, see my Sony RX100 review!



Gordon

Sorry Gordon. I had set my bookmark to reviews and there was no reference to the RX 100 from there in.

I am now reset!

And this looks like a good piece of kit.

The spec says 10 FPS, is this in JPEG only? or does this include shooting in RAW?

One other point, this camera would be killer *if* it had a tilt-swivel screen. The recently announced Samsung EX2F, which replaces the TL500 has one, so does Canon's G12 and G1X... With these compact camera's needing more than ever before needing to differentiate themselves from camera phones, why isn't a tilt-swivel standard for compact cameras these days, especially at these prices.

It is because the priority is not on feature, but to make the camera as small as it could be with relatively large sensor (compare to other compacts) and relatively bright lens.

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I don't buy it, as a point of reference Samsung's EX2F dimensions are 112 x 62 x 29 mm with tilt swivel screen versus Sony's RX100 dimensions of 102x58x35.9mm: essentially identical, i.e. there is no practical size penalty incurred by using a tilt-swivel. Additionally, Samsung's EX2F F/1.4 even beats Sony's F/1.8 at widest aperture.

While I agree that "this camera would be killer *if* it had a tilt-swivel screen"--to the point that I'm holding out hope that Pany's upcoming LX7 will have one (along with a similarly large sensor and fast lens) to replace my current TL500/EX1--I would also point out that a tilt-swivel screen generally adds the most to the thickness/depth of the camera, and in this dimension, the RX100 already exceeds the EX2(F). Also, don't forget to factor in sensor size. i.e. Sony already has to fit a significantly larger sensor in the RX100 than Samy does in the EX2(F).

Also don't forget to factor in sensor size when comparing apertures (more specifically DoF). i.e. f1.4 on the EX2 is more like f3.3 on the RX100.

While I (and probably you) would be willing to make that compromise, it's possible that there are more potential buyers who wouldn't - Mark

Samsung EX2F sensor is much smaller, that mike make space for the swivel lcd

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Hi !
Wondering if the full review is coming anytime soon?

The RX100 review is coming very soon now, and you can already see some comparisons and results for it in our new Panasonic LX7 review!

Hi everyone the Sony RX100 review is now completed! Hope you find it useful!

Gordon

One question after reading the review and searching the forums is:

is the 50/60fps video frame rate selectable in the menus or is it fixed to your regional firmware/model?

My U.S. NTSC model is fixed to 60i 24M (FX), 60i 17M (FH) and 60p 28M (PS). And I would imagine the reverse would be true for PAL models because page 29 of the manual states:



HTH - Mark

I believe the frame rate on most Sony models is fixed. So if it's in the US, it'll be 60i or 60p and if it's Europe / Australia / NZ, it'll be 50i or 50p. It's not like Canon or Nikon who let you select 24, 24, 30, 50, 60 etc from menus.

I can confirm that mine in the UK is 50i - although I almost needed a microscope to see it!

Bought it last week, largely thanks to your preview Gordon then, in-shop, it was the size that swung it. It is very pocketable and can be instantly available whenever or wherever I want it. The main reason I wanted something like this is that my work involves a lot of driving and there have been times when it would have been great to have something like the RX100 "right there" instead of having to jump out of the car and access the bag in the boot. Also, my work takes me into some pretty rough estates at times and I never particularly liked having to leave valuable gear in the car. Now, hopefully, I can have the best of both worlds.

I bought the camera from a local chain Gordon. Although it is not one of your links I like to support them too, not least for the "hands-on" availability and they are a knowledgeable bunch. So I'll be buying you a coffee. Cheers!

Thought a sample pic might be useful for some. Here's a panorama from today. I think this little camera does a very good job.


Sheep tracks and feeding scrapes by warth man, on Flickr