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Which one is better when it comes to overall performance?
Sony DT 16-105mm f3.5-5.6 63%  63%  [ 5 ]
Sony DT 18-250mm f3.5-6.3 38%  38%  [ 3 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:23 pm 
Hey guys, I've been a Sony Alpha owner now for about 2 years and I'm looking for an upgrade from my standard 18-55mm lens, unfortunately I'm stuck between a 16-105mm and 18-250mm(both from sony). I just want to know which one between the two has a better optics(eg. sharpness, contrast,) and a faster AF response and overall performance I mostly do candid and street photography and a little bit of landscape.

Side Note:This migh also help you guys for the decision making I also own a 50mm F1.8 lens and an external flash (HVL-F42AM)

Added question: Is the 70-300mm G Series lens a good upgrade from the standard 18-55mm, and if this lens is also ideal for candid and street photography?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:47 pm 
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Why do you say "unfortunately"?, both are good optics and should serve you fine. I would lean toward the Sal 18-250 though.
You can also choose others from Sigma, Tamron or CZ offerings.

Here is a comprehensive database for ya...
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/topic24857.html

* most lenses are a good upgrade from the 18-55


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:48 pm 
Unfortunaely because I can't decide which one I should get. To be honest I don't like decision making :D

Which of the two is the fastest in terms of autofocusing, or should I just keep the 18-55mm and just buy a 70-300mm G Series lens


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:57 pm 
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I understand, we are here to help with everything form; breakfast ideas to leisure wear.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:40 pm 
but do you think its a good idea to just pair the 18-55mm with a 70-300mm G series ?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:40 pm 
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Well you're looking for opinions, so here's one...I can't say any of this is fact, since I haven't had hands-on experience with the 16-105.

My personal taste leans to the 18-250. I bought one myself to replace the kit lens way back when I got my first A300...and have used it extensively ever since. Despite building up a significant lens collection, I continue to find this lens my go-to, default, travel, and all-in-one option.

My own decision between these two would probably be like this:

16-105 - faster focus, likely a little bit. Slightly wider.
18-250 - definitely longer, not likely any slower aperture at equivalent focals, much more versatile.
Both - some corner softness wide open, some distortion at the wide end, some proclivity to purple fringing or minor CA at either end of the focal range, probably fairly close in IQ, both better stopped down a bit.

So in the end, the significantly greater reach and flexibility of the 18-250 won out for me. If I had to do it all again, I'd have an 18-250 coming in the mail again.

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Sony A6000 / 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 / 55-210mm F4-6.3 / 10-18mm F4 / 35mm F1.8 / 16mm F2.8 / via manual adapter, lots of Pentax K mount, Konica K/AR mount, and Leica M mount manual lenses

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:56 pm 
Thank you for your opinion, now I just need someone who owned a 16-105mm so I could compare it


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:07 pm 
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A bunch of 3rd party reviews at the bottom of page...

http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/Sony-AF-DT- ... ns417.html

http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/Sony-AF-DT- ... ns415.html


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:33 pm 
I'm starting to go with the 18-250mm but the only problem for me is I think the 150-250mm is pretty much a useless focal range since your image will loose overall sharpness once you hit the middle of this zoom range.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:54 pm 
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You will be surprised, this lens performs similarly to ones costing twice as much.
This photo is at 210mm taken with my old A200

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:07 pm 
I dont know if you guys know who Ken Rockwell is, but he described the 18-250mm lens as a "toy lens" and he gave it a super bad review, (he basically insulted the engineers behind the 18-250mm lens.)

Here is the full review of Ken Rockwell (He sounds bias though)

http://www.kenrockwell.com/sony/18-250mm.htm


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:25 am 
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Ken Rockwell is a waste of time. Once you become a bit more knowledgeable you will figure it out.
IMHO

Try this one instead...

http://www.alphamountworld.com/reviews/ ... -63-review


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:19 am 
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Westcoast...funny, I have a very similar sample shot taken with my 18-250mm at full 250mm:

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Not to say anything insulting about Ken Rockwell, but 'bias' was a pretty good word that would apply...along with 'opinionated', and 'not always right'.

Here's an entire gallery of every photo I've loaded online from my 18-250mm lens - wildlife, night long exposure, handheld high ISO, scenic, architecture, closeup...just about everything and anything, and very much covering the entire focal range:

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/sony_sal18250mm_f3563

Sharpness is not an issue - even at full zoom wide open it can still produce pretty decent results, and stopped down a bit it tightens up a lot. Here's a 200mm at ISO1600:
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Here's the worst-case scenario - 250mm, wide open:
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Sony DSLR-A580 / Sony 18-250mm / Minolta 50mm F1.7 / Sigma 30mm F1.4 / Tamron 10-24mm / Tamron 150-600mm / Tamron 90mm F2.8 macro / Minolta 300mm F4 APO
Sony A6000 / 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 / 55-210mm F4-6.3 / 10-18mm F4 / 35mm F1.8 / 16mm F2.8 / via manual adapter, lots of Pentax K mount, Konica K/AR mount, and Leica M mount manual lenses

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:56 am 
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Great lens, here's a couple at 250mm shot with an A200

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:57 am 
Hmmmm...if this lens performs well or on par with 16-105mm why is the 16-105mm a little bit pricier than the 18-250

Right now I'm also considering buying a 70-300mm G lens to pair it with my 18-55mm, instead of buying the 18-250mm or the 16-105mm Whats ur opinion? you think its a good idea especially if you do candid/ street photography, do you think its gonna look intimidating if someone sees me carrying this lens around?


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