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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:22 am 
Basically same as A550 but without quick AF live view, smaller LCD (2.6 inch). Longer battery life as a result. All the rest seems same as A550.

Thoughts? Too many sub $1000 models?

Sony should release this one very cheap. Otherwise there won't be any point to it (given A500 is only $649 right now).


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:12 am 
Sony is really flooding the market with cameras. I'm not sure if this is such a good idea ...


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:32 am 
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While the lack of articulated screen and quick live view are disappointing, don't forget it still has sensor-based live view for focus checking, built-in stabilisation and up to 7fps continuous shooting - indeed it becomes the cheapest to offer this kind of speed.

But yes, the company is becoming slightly obsessed with having the most DSLRs around.

Press release from Sony Europe below:

Sony’s new DSLR is a versatile all-round choice for step‑up photographers

· 14.2 effective megapixels Exmor™ CMOS sensor
· Up to 7 fps continuous shooting
· Manual Focus Check Live View
· Auto HDR
· 1,050 shot battery stamina (CIPA measurement)
· SteadyShot INSIDE
The newest addition to the α family of DSLR cameras teams flawless imaging with generous creative options.

Powerful yet brilliantly easy to use, the DSLR-A450 is a perfect all-rounder when you’re ready to take your passion for great pictures to a more advanced level. Ideal for active shooters moving up to their next DSLR, it’s at home in any shooting situation, from relaxed portraits to fast-moving sports action.

Inside the α450 is a high-resolution 14.2 (approx.) effective megapixel Exmor™ CMOS sensor. It’s teamed with the powerful BIONZ processor to deliver highly detailed, ultra-low noise images. Sensitivity extends right up to ISO 12800, allowing you to capture beautifully natural handheld images in low light without flash.

With a generous 95% field of view, the bright optical viewfinder makes framing and composition a pleasure. As an extra refinement, Manual Focus Check Live View previews clear, bright full-resolution images on the 6.7cm (2.7”) Clear Photo LCD screen. With selectable 7x/14x on-screen image enlargement it’s ideal for confirming pin-sharp focus with portraits, still life, macro and architectural scenes.

The powerful BIONZ image processor enables high-speed continuous shooting at up to 5 fps (maximum – approx. figure). In Speed Priority mode (with AF and AE set at start of burst) this increases to an amazing 7 fps (maximum – actual speed depends on shooting conditions and media card). It’s more than enough to catch sports and fast-moving action with ease.

Creative options are enhanced with Auto HDR mode that accommodates bright highlights and dark shadow details in a single frame. Two successive frames shot handheld at different exposure values are merged automatically by the camera. The result is a detail-packed High Dynamic Range image – with no need for a PC image editor and specialists skills. In addition to fully automatic operation, the exposure difference between frames can be manually set up to 3EV, in 0.5EV increments.

Featured right across the DSLR line-up by Sony, SteadyShot INSIDE™ offers up to 4 steps of anti-shake correction with the full range of 30 α lenses and two teleconvertors, as well as compatible A-mount optics by Konica-Minolta.

The α450 also offers the most impressive shooting stamina of any DSLR camera by Sony to date. The high-capacity battery allows up to 1,050 shots between charges* - plenty for a busy weekend’s sightseeing.

Slots for Memory Stick PRO-HG Duo and SD/SDHC memory cards (sold separately) are offered to suit users’ personal shooting preferences.

Connect the α450 to any HD Ready TV for a breathtaking big-screen view of your photos. PhotoTV HD optimises still image reproduction on compatible BRAVIA™ models, while BRAVIA™ Sync allows control of slideshow and other camera playback functions using your TV remote.

Supplied software includes Image Data Converter SR; Image Data Lightbox SR; and PMB (Picture Motion Browser) for easy image management. The α450 is also compatible with the wide range of high-quality DSLR accessories by Sony, including flashes, carry cases, batteries and chargers, GPS and more.

The DSLR-A450 digital SLR camera by Sony is available from the beginning of February 2010.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:35 am 
Looking at that camera, perhaps Sony realized that the A230/A330/A380 were a terrible mistake from a design perspective? I'm pleased to see that the A450 has a decent shaped grip.


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In a rough count, even with this Sony has about the same number of bodies as Canon or Nikon. Only difference is of course it's concentrated on the low end without the "pro" models at the top.

The A450 seems ok, but if I were them I'd drop the A500 and pretend it never happened.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:36 am 
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In a rough count, even with this Sony has about the same number of bodies as Canon or Nikon. Only difference is of course it's concentrated on the low end without the "pro" models at the top.

The A450 seems ok, but if I were them I'd drop the A500 and pretend it never happened.


Or they could just drop A2xx and A3xx and lower prices for A450 and A5xx, making these the entry level models.

As for A450, I wonder what would be the initial price in the US.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:05 am 
I swear this company is bi-polar! :shock:

Maybe they really did realize that the new A2xx/A3xx models were filling too small a niche for most people?

Looks like a good camera (if Sony is aggressive with pricing) but, I don't think this camera makes much sense when compared to the A500, unless the price is way cheaper, like sub 500.00. In fact, I think this is a similar strategy to the A230/A330/A380 in that now you have the A450/A500/A550. 3 cameras with slightly varying feature sets.

Still no video, so can only speculate 1 of 2 things. Either they want to perfect it and release it in a higher end model, or they have no plans of integrating video this year (which would be a mistake even if 99% of persons don't need it).

Hopefully, this is part of a larger strategy (we always think that, but still no proof that Sony has any long term plans).

EDIT: GPS? When did that happen?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:53 am 
OK, so maybe I'm being over critical of Sony and not being constructive with my criticism.

So, what is Sony doing right:
- Making steadyshot ubiqitous in the alpha range.
- Supporting the Alpha mount and maintaining compatibility with Minolta glass.
- Most useable implementation of live view
- Making full frame affordable.
- Having competitive lenses
- HAving a competitive flash system

Ok, so what needs to change then?

- A concrete and consistent plan.
- Stop littering the market with low end bodies.
- Work on their release cycle which seems out of whack.
- Make the A7xx a priority! This is the camera that will determine if their is a max exidos from Sony. Also, the development time seems inordinarly long.
- Video. You may not want it, but Sony needs it to compete.
- Updates to a few high end lenses which tend to offer little over existing Minolta gear.

As far as I see, Sony just needs to focus on getting new customers while not alienating their existing base, which is what seems to be happening to some extent. All in all, Sony isn't too bad off, but the A2xx/A3xx has left many wondering WTF :lol: and to date, is probably the only major mistep made by Sony. Maybe the A450 can address the shortcomings of the low end if the price is right!


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I think there is a place for the A2xx and A3xx bodies, the current problem being one of price. The original series was competitive, but the refresh didn't bring anything useful to justify its significant price increase, which effectively priced them out of serious consideration.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:10 pm 
That's quick. The A450 is already on a Pre-Order status for £479 body only


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:24 pm 
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Sony, Sony, Sony. Have you not learned anything from the survey you sent out not to long ago? Have you not learned anything about what you (should) have read on lots of forums? This, though a capable camera, is not what we're waiting for.

More of the same, too much of the same IMHO.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:53 pm 
I like A450 because it is simple camera. It has big sensor (I guess it is as good as A550) and fast cont. burst. The price will be cheaper because there is no secondary sensor and tilt lcd. I predict around $750 body only or almost the same as A500


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:59 pm 
OMG that is waaaaaay too much for this based on the listed specs. This camera should sell close to half that amount. But, if the price in the UK is already so high, then I suppose that's what it will cost in the US. If Sony does sell this for that much, then they have clearly lost their minds and gravitating towards the traditional Sony model of overpricing everything compared to the competition.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:00 pm 
Sony is trapped in the middle. Their beginner DSLR is not good and cheap enough, the flagship DSLR is not powerful enough.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:01 pm 
Bjorn van Sinttruije wrote:
Sony, Sony, Sony. Have you not learned anything from the survey you sent out not to long ago? Have you not learned anything about what you (should) have read on lots of forums? This, though a capable camera, is not what we're waiting for.

More of the same, too much of the same IMHO.

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There are rumors about A650 too in two months ;)


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