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You wouldn't buy it Bjorn?... What would you get instead ? the A900?

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The A900 becomes a bit useless after the A850 will hit the markets. Sure,more FPS and 2% extra coverage in the viewfinder are always welcome,but for 500$ more? Never...well,that's my opinion.
In 2 years when I'll change my camera,if Sony will own Canon in the features/price war,as I predict,I will be tempted to follow the Sony path. Still,it would be nice for Sony to release more SSM lenses...

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Any bets on how much the price will drop, because Amazon UK, have got it on pre-order for more than a 5D2 costs!

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In Germany there are only two shops offering it on the Internet, both at 1999EUR (incl. 19% You-Know-VAT) which is equal to the list price. For your comparison, this pricing-engine shows the 5DII-body at 2160EUR and the A900 at 2050EUR (list-price 2800EUR).
So there is already a price differential of 160 EUR in favour of the A850.
From my experience the street-price of the A850 should go down to around 1500EUR (incl. VAT). But no guessing how fast this will occur.

This is testament that Sony is agressively tackling the FF market!

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Every new product launch has always hit at or close to list price. Sounds like it'll be a waiting game for it to find its level.

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That's what I've was wondering.... the price, I hope by 2010 the price will drop a few 100 euros (I'll be in Canada by thn) so cheaper thn the euro tag.
If not, I'll think about it... cause 2000 euros is 2000 euros... Who's getting it (for sure) and why.

Yeah, probably, though I'm still hoping for a lower megapixel, higher framerate, more like the D3, camera.

Here's the What Digital Camera preview video of the A850:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogiMZHIiD4I

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Thanks for the vid Bjorn, so it's the same except for 3 minor things.
Another U2B vid about the A850 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TygeBG1t4Hs

Does the view finder incline (UP and Down) like my A350?

before buying it, I'll rent it for a week end, and of course read some posts here.

What do you think Bjorn, A900 or A850?

Just started looking around for it...

Amazon UK list the A500 and A850 as being available from the 10th September at £595 and £1948 respectively body only. On the latter, they have the A900 listed at £1840 and in stock. The A850 kit with 28-70* f/2.8 SAM is £486 more than body only. *Amazon typo, it should go to 75mm. That would put the lens over £100 more than typical price of Tamron equivalent.

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If the price drops (and it probably will) this camera is great news for all of us - it's putting pressure on everyone, offering fullframe at a lower price!

Not that I was all toooo impressed with the A900's performance myself, but if you usually shoot at low ISOs (studio photography for instance), this camera sure looks like a bargain since it will offer incredible detail for a relatively low price!

However, the D700's price dropped quite a bit too lately, so that's a lot of competition to live up to..

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For me personally? The A900. I've often found myself needing the framerate. And the 100% viewfinder is a big pro for me. So I'd rather save some extra cash to get the camera I really want, rather than getting one that's just a nice piece of kit...
But I'm getting at least two lenses first: the Zeiss 85mm and Sony 28mm.

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OR about you don't let sony short change you and wait for them to bring out a good Full Framer ?

One that can compete in both Resolution and HIGH ISO noise, well ISO range first of all! I suppose its all dependent on how much you use higher iso settings but the cleaner high ISO's usually trickle down the line giving cleaner ISO 800,400 etc.

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Hmm... I'm having second thoughts about getting the A850 now... because of the A900 pricing! Amazon UK and another dealer I don't have experience with both have it around £1600. Pre-order A850s are still around the £2k mark. *if* the A900 low pricing holds, how long will it take the A850 to reach ~2/3 that of A900? The A900 price itself is creeping low enough I'm starting to wonder if it would be worth it to get those couple extra fps over the A850.

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The price for the A900 sounds very impressive! If I had the money, I would buy it right away since there is no certainty that the A850 will drop that low anytime soon, and this might just be a "clearing" out price, where vendors want to move the A900 before the A850 comes out and starts to eat away at A900 sales. Jump on it if you can!

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Doh... the A900 price at both places with it at £16xx are now at £18xx. Guess that decides it for me then, will wait and see how low the A850 goes. I didn't have the money for the A900 without going negative on my bank balance for a couple months... but still it was tempting

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