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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:12 pm 
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There's been leaks, rumours and speculations all over the internet now, so it's about time we start a thread. Now it just so happens I have a friend who's got good connections with high Sony staff (the ones in suits, the bosses) and he gave me some info about the new A850, that's supposed to be coming up soon.

Essentially, it's a downgrade from the A900. There's a few differences, a lot of similarities. First of all, the resolution is the same, 24,6 megapixels. That would mean it probably has the same sensor. So what's different? Well, the build quality isn't as good as the A900's. It's still a quality camera, off course, but it's a step down from the flagship Alpha. Secondly, the viewfinder is 98% instead of 100%. Whether that means it has Live View like current entry-level Alphas, remains a mystery, but I'm pretty sure it won't have Live View.

A third and important difference between the A850 and A900 is the price. The A850 will be cheaper, quite a lot. I could give an estimate, but to keep my source happy, I won't.

A little side-note: "the source" had long heard the new entry-levels were to be introduced on the 18th of May. He's reliable and has good contact with Sony.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:14 pm 
First post!

Thanks Bjorn (might as well, it was already in the clipboard)!

The d3x has live view. I find it hard to believe after all this time the Sony won't have the same, even if it will be only contrast-detect AF (ridiculously slow).


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:17 pm 
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Hehe, thanks for the link to my photostream!

I suspect, read me, only a suspicion, not info from the source, that Sony will save Live View for the A500/A550, possibly combined with video recording. The high-end line-up will be mostly about traditional photography, just like the A900 is a real photog's camera.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:21 pm 
i hope it looks like our a700 or the 900 COOL! 8)

But if it looks like the new one 330! tons on sony DSLR boys should be disapointed again!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:33 pm 
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Well, the build quality is supposed to be different, I'm not sure whether the style of the body will match that of the newest cameras or whether it will be normal/the way it should be. We'll just have to sit back and see. Soon, I promise.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:44 pm 
and yeah I'l wait But no plan to buy new cam for five years or more! i hope my camerawill reach that age limit.... (I HOPE SO!) beacause i'm saving for a lens not for the body... fo now...


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:58 pm 
I think a cheaper FF 24mp camera will really hurt the sales of the A900...
If I were sony I would get a low mp FF body with around 7-8fps, good weather sealing with excellent high iso performance, now thats a camera I wouldn't hesitate to buy...

Come on sony!!!!! when?????


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Nothing about the A5xx while you were there? :p

If this comes true, that will certainly be opening up a new area as the A900 is already in similar price to other budget FF cameras. To go much cheaper will be intruding on so called semi-pro crop camera territory.

Technically (electronics) I still can't see what they can remove from the A900 to make this, as there isn't anything to remove. Can they make that much difference in price just by making a cheaper body? Will it sacrifice continuous speed? Especially with the same sensor, they would need to make the difference big enough compared to the A900 otherwise no one would buy the A900.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:21 pm 
This would be an excellent move if true :D. The amount of pressure that Canon/Nikon/etc will be under is going to be tremendous. A cheap FF camera (say priced similar to the A700) is going to take the market by storm.

Let's hope they do not drop the ball.


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Your right Philip. While it's not something some, or perhaps even most, Sony users have hoped for (low megapixel count and higher framerate), it will give Sony a huge advantage over the competition. From Sony's perspective, that's a great thing. It's just a little disappointing us users are left out of the consideration... Although, of course, it will allow them to shoot an A900-like camera at much lower costs.

I do believe it's a good move of Sony to introduce a cheaper full frame. It won't effect the A900 sales too much. At the moment, Alpha users may be looking for an upgrade, but the A900 costs to much. An A850 is the perfect solution. Pro's or people willing to spend the money will still buy the A900, because they'll appreciate the extra build quality and 100% viewfinder.

No popo, didn't get any info about the 500 series. The A550 will replace the now discontinued A700, the A500 will be a slight downgrade. That's all I know...

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I thought the A550 would be the one that'll decide if I have a serious future with Sony, but the A850 really shakes things up a bit. Can you say no to a sensor stabilised FF? I'm not sure I can... if the price is right.

Even if the A850 is a lot cheaper than A900, it still wont be cheap by any measure. My guess is it will still be above competing high end crop sensor bodies.

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The price is pretty low, I can tell you that. Made me seriously consider saving up for the A850 instead of the A900. But I care too much about the viewfinder and build quality, so...

Before September begins guys. Don't have an exact date just yet.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:43 pm 
Guess that would be August! :D


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:22 pm 
Exciting news indeed. A FF camera with a lower price tag? Very attractive :) Maybe I would consider a Sony product in the future,if they lower their prices at some lenses.
At the same time,I can bet that in 2 years,I can find a D700 SH,with the same price or lower than the A850...but the Sony SH market is not so "hot" my country,so at least here it's not an advantage for the A850's price tag,whatever it is. People will be drawn to buy Canikon SH products rather than Sony.
Nevertheless,like I said,this is a nice strategy for Sony!


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*if* this comes true, and *if* the price is, let's say comparable to the D300, I'd probably get one even if it has no toys. That would be my idea of really cheap, although realistically I think they would have performed a miracle if they can do one at that price.

Don't forget that if Sony does pull this off well, it will put pressure on Canon/Nikon too. They may drop the prices faster on existing models, and/or they will later bring out their own "cheap" FF too.

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