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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:51 am 
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Can some one loan Gordon a 70-200G to review. I'd love to see him put it through it's paces and create a YouTube video clip.

And now that Sony has announced the CZ 24-70 f/2.8 SSM lens...hopefully we'll see this lens reviewed too in the Spring. Which is when it's supposed to debut for $1750 USD. Not cheap. Typical of CZ glass but comparable to Nikon's recently released 24-70 f/2.8 announced along with the D3/D300.

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I'd like to too! Maybe I'll get hold of one when the new bodies become available...


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I'd like to too! Maybe I'll get hold of one when the new bodies become available...


I hope so too. :) But I would love to see either of the two lenses tested on an A700 body. Though the new A300/A350 borrows the same in-camera AF motor from the A700. So I guess it wouldn't matter in the end.

Keep up the great work!


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There's going to be an update of the 70-200G soon, so maybe Gordon should wait a little longer with a review.

Nice lens, I'd love to have it.

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Bjorn van Sinttruije wrote:
There's going to be an update of the 70-200G soon, so maybe Gordon should wait a little longer with a review.

Nice lens, I'd love to have it.

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They're going to update the current 70-200G (Minolta) f/2.8? Or are you talking about the rumorefd CZ 70-200 f/2.8 SSM lens.

Have you had any experience with G series SSM lenses? I wonder if they are a lot quieter and if they are as fast AF as the in-camera AF motor.


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I believe the current Sony 70-200G SSM is going to be updated. There's going to be a new version which is optimised for digital cameras (probably APS-C). At least, that's what I've read on other forums.

I don't have any experience with G nor SSM lenses. But I'm sure the AF will be much faster and quieter too than the AF-motor in the camera.

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Bjorn van Sinttruije wrote:
I believe the current Sony 70-200G SSM is going to be updated. There's going to be a new version which is optimised for digital cameras (probably APS-C). At least, that's what I've read on other forums.

I don't have any experience with G nor SSM lenses. But I'm sure the AF will be much faster and quieter too than the AF-motor in the camera.

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You could buy a 70-200G lens to find out for sure. :)

SSM comes with all G series lenses and a few upcoming CZ lenses like the 24-70 f/2.8. Due out in the Spring. And the 70-300 CZ SSM lens.


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DarkDTSHD wrote:
You could buy a 70-200G lens to find out for sure. :)


I wish I could afford such a lens :( . I think I'd rather go for the 100-300 F4 from Sigma, because it has longer reach, constant aperture and it's not as expensive as a G SSM lens. The teleconver for that lens is also not too expensive.
I do plan on renting the 70-200 G SSM for a day or so some time.

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SSM comes with all G series lenses and a few upcoming CZ lenses like the 24-70 f/2.8. Due out in the Spring. And the 70-300 CZ SSM lens.


The 70-300 G SSM is not from Carl Zeiss, nice lens though. To bad the aperture is not constant, otherwise I might buy it sometime. The 24-70 F2.8 is a very cool lens of course, but ridiculously expensive too. Maybe I should rent it :D .

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Bjorn van Sinttruije wrote:
DarkDTSHD wrote:
You could buy a 70-200G lens to find out for sure. :)


I wish I could afford such a lens :( . I think I'd rather go for the 100-300 F4 from Sigma, because it has longer reach, constant aperture and it's not as expensive as a G SSM lens. The teleconver for that lens is also not too expensive.
I do plan on renting the 70-200 G SSM for a day or so some time.

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SSM comes with all G series lenses and a few upcoming CZ lenses like the 24-70 f/2.8. Due out in the Spring. And the 70-300 CZ SSM lens.


The 70-300 G SSM is not from Carl Zeiss, nice lens though. To bad the aperture is not constant, otherwise I might buy it sometime. The 24-70 F2.8 is a very cool lens of course, but ridiculously expensive too. Maybe I should rent it :D .

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Yes the 70-200G is a bit expensive. Much more than the Nikon or Canon eqivalents. Which I find ridiculous. I find the build quality on the Canon and Nikon lenses much better. Performance? Debateable but I think better than what's currently available from Sony.

The 70-300G is a CZ lens. But not the current 70-200G is a rebadged Minolta lens. Any how the 70-200 is expenssive as I said. As is the upcoming 24-70 CZ SSM lens at $1750 USD. But if I do go with an A700 I will be getting the 24-70 as my first lens. I find the noise from the camera when using DT or any non-G/SSM lens uber LOUD. Even if the torque from the motor is good.

Honestly, my other choice is the Nikon D300. Which way I'll go is up in the air. I prefer the Nikon system and the D300 ergonomics/features. But the A700 does do some things better (at least in lab tests...heh...which really doesn't mean much in the real world).

Hope you get your A700 soon. Lucky 16 year old. :)


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DarkDTSHD wrote:
The 70-300G is a CZ lens.

It's not CZ, only G and SSM. Just search for 70-300 G SSM in google, there's nothing about CZ. There's also no CZ-logo on the lens:

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But if I do go with an A700 I will be getting the 24-70 as my first lens.

As my signature says, I'm going for the CZ 16-80. It's a good lens and not as expensive as the CZ 24-70 is going to be.

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Honestly, my other choice is the Nikon D300. Which way I'll go is up in the air. I prefer the Nikon system and the D300 ergonomics/features. But the A700 does do some things better (at least in lab tests...heh...which really doesn't mean much in the real world).

I like the in-camera stabilisation of the A700, and I am a Sony fan. Plus, the D300 is more expensive than the A700.

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Hope you get your A700 soon. Lucky 16 year old. :)

About 17 days, then I'm going to buy it, probably. It's indeed quite a camera for a 16 year old, but I have had to save for it for a long, long time.

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Thanks for the picture Bjorn.

I just checked my A700 brochure. And you're right. It isn't a CZ lens. I assumed it was for some odd reason. :)

Nut there is rumors of a CZ version coming out. Also a SSM f/2.8 lens. Along with a 14-24 f/2.8 SSM lens. Both will be very expensive. Hovering around the $1800.00 USD range I'm guessing.

One of the things I'm not crazy about the Sony Alpha DSLR range for. Costly lenses. More so than the Nikon and Canon equivalents.


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All sound like intersting rumours, but too expensive for me :( . Sony's products are indeed more costly than rivals. But of course that's also because of the CZ optics.

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Bjorn van Sinttruije wrote:
All sound like intersting rumours, but too expensive for me :( . Sony's products are indeed more costly than rivals. But of course that's also because of the CZ optics.

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They're also expensive for the rest of us. No matter our ages or incomes. :)

Not sure if the optics in the CZ lenses justifies the asking price. I'd love to see a shootout. Sony's 70-200 vs CZ 70-200 vs. Nikon's vs. Canon's. Maybe Gordon will do this for us. Hint, hint.... :)


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